Talk:Attention deficit hyperactivity disorder

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It's just a baby entry now - anyone like to add to it? --Jenigrant 14:27, 25 Mar 2005 (EST)

Are ADD and ADHD always the same thing? Wondering about the redirect from attention_deficit_disorder --Merlin 09:54, 27 Mar 2005 (EST)

I'm new to this and have no clue if this is what you are supposed to do but...ADD and ADHD are the same thing. The term is used interchangably. The "correct" medical term, though is AD/HD.

Terry -

Thanks, Terry! Very helpful. --Merlin 14:46, 27 Mar 2005 (EST)
To kind of expand what Terry said - inattentive ADHD is usually called ADD, since it frequently manifests without "traditional" hyperactive symptoms. I've read that hyperactive is a bit of a misnomer for adults, though. Instead of appearing hyper, adult ADHD sufferers often feel internally restless and need to stay busy and work on several things at once.
My SO is classic ADHD - he's loud, impatient, emotional, constantly in action. I'm inattentive ADHD - forgetful, distracted, easily bored. I'm not hyper but I do have hyperactive symptoms - mostly feeling the constant need to stay busy doing something. It's different for each person. --Jeni 09:58, 29 Mar 2005 (EST)

Added the discussion on ADHD versus pseudo-ADD in response to Merlin's comment on his user page. Jeff Porten 00:48, 6 Apr 2005 (EDT)

You do not have ADHD until you have been diagnosed by a qualified professional. To claim the illness otherwise is akin to claiming you have stomach cancer when you experience a tummyache. - er, perhaps this might be reworded. You can have stomach cancer without being diagnosed by a qualified professional, right? So you must at least be able to have ADHD without being diagnosed by a qualified professional. --RB 06:31, 6 Apr 2005 (EDT)

So you must at least be able to have ADHD without being diagnosed by a qualified professional. True enough. You can have ADHD all your life without realizing it. Seeking treatment or claiming you have it without being diagnosed isn't particularly intelligent, though. I think emphasis needs to be on seeking diagnosis before seeking treatment. Additionally, I think the pseudo-ADD section could be broken into two sections - the first on psuedo-ADD and situational attention deficit, and the second into symptoms and what to do if you suspect you have ADHD. --Jeni 10:55, 6 Apr 2005 (EDT)
Sorry, assumed the reasoning for my strong language earlier would be self-evident. In my experience, it is very common for otherwise intelligent and educated people to jokingly say they have this, and to unthinkingly (or deliberately) imply that it can be overcome by willpower. Hence my cancer analogy, which I find brings people to planet Earth. I'd prefer to put it back, but I'm not sure what the social wikimores are on that. --Jeff Porten 15:46, 9 Apr 2005 (EDT)
Makes sense. I think I'd like to stay away from the cancer analogy, because I think it's a little over the top. At the same time, I agree with you that there is a perception that ADHD is something that can be solved if you "apply yourself." Admittedly, part of ADHD treatment does involve recognizing destructive tendencies and working around them, but it's not quite the same thing. --Jeni 16:24, 11 Apr 2005 (EDT)
Moved the "you think you have ADD" section immediately after Pseudo-ADD. Minor edits to Jeni's text. Added a less controversial paragraph on the illness versus having a few symptoms. Changes to the checklist entry on use of stimulants. Jeff Porten 15:46, 9 Apr 2005 (EDT)
Somewhat on the topic of psuedo-ADD, though, I often wonder if ADHD is partially caused by environmental factors. Does watching too much TV or surfing the Web as a kid effect the brain to a point where they develop ADHD? Do things like TV and the Internet worsen ADHD? What about overly processed foods? As adults, does a "multitasking" type workplace make symptoms worse, or just more obvious? ADHD seems to have a genetic factor, and Dr. Daniel Amen's work suggests that ADHD is mostly physical. Yet at the same time, environmental factors can influence physical brain structure. It's the old nature vs. nurture question, I guess. --Jeni 10:55, 6 Apr 2005 (EDT)
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